Out of Character Chat III

[Moto Khulun]

Onyx Champion is a cool dude.

[Shinjo Kemuri]

Advising against it because of likely consequences makes sense. The actual legalities depend on what specifically happens. At this point in cannon, there are not many precedents where such deals ended well.

[Asako Hirase]

Friggin' Kuni Yori and his shennanigans...

*fist shakes*

[Shiba Kaizen]

Ok.

But if, say, you know someone is planning to attempt to make a deal with the obsidian champion, telling them 'that's illegal yo' would be totally not an insane thing to do?

And my collar's got this. (hides horse treat collar and puts on armor collar)

That all depends on what you know. Do you know what an obsidian or onyx champion is? Do you know what is illegal about this potential deal? More likely as followers of the Kami and being in a state of war with Jigoku that ebbs and flows as centuries pass you could say it is dishonorable to treat with enemy spies. Perspective, knowledge, authority (status), honor should play a role in how your character would respond to this issue.

[Ide Samai]

Just cross checking to make sure I'm not crazy, but making deals or agreements with shadowlands monsters is illegal, right? I don't want Taira spouting something totally false.

You forgot "Asking for a friend"

[Ichiro Daisuke]

Friggin' Kuni Yori and his shennanigans...

*fist shakes*

*shakes his fist as well*

[Shiba Kaizen]

Friggin' Kuni Yori and his shennanigans...

*fist shakes*

*shakes his fist as well*

*joins the dance line*

[Soshi Taira]

Ok.

But if, say, you know someone is planning to attempt to make a deal with the obsidian champion, telling them 'that's illegal yo' would be totally not an insane thing to do?

And my collar's got this. (hides horse treat collar and puts on armor collar)

That all depends on what you know. Do you know what an obsidian or onyx champion is? Do you know what is illegal about this potential deal? More likely as followers of the Kami and being in a state of war with Jigoku that ebbs and flows as centuries pass you could say it is dishonorable to treat with enemy spies. Perspective, knowledge, authority (status), honor should play a role in how your character would respond to this issue.

Yeah, Taira already did a lore shadowlands earlier with a 43, so I assume he gets the gist of things, and while he is not honorable, (no junshin) he is loyal, and deeply hateful toward the taint and jigoku, so I think his response is 'you don't make deals with monsters who have already lost their souls to jigoku and whose only desire is to see the entire empire fall to their dark master.'

Thanks guys, just was making sure it wouldn't be totally wrong. If it falls into 'gray area' then I can safely wing it in character and have that be part of 'rokugan is hypocritical' when disagreement arises IC.

[Doji Fukawa]

Friggin' Kuni Yori and his shennanigans...

*fist shakes*

*shakes his fist as well*

*joins the dance line*

*Joins behind the Phoenix, to shake her fist at the Phoenix clan too*

[Shiba Kaizen]

A Scorpion can always roll with it then plot to destroy the Onyx Champion if you find out the where and when of any meetings... not saying that is a good idea, but Scorpion will scorpion

[Soshi Taira]

Yeah but I think I know I can't kill an Onyx champion. I'd love to, but he may be outside my pay grade.

[Shimizu Ryori]

Ok.

But if, say, you know someone is planning to attempt to make a deal with the obsidian champion, telling them 'that's illegal yo' would be totally not an insane thing to do?

And my collar's got this. (hides horse treat collar and puts on armor collar)

That all depends on what you know. Do you know what an obsidian or onyx champion is? Do you know what is illegal about this potential deal? More likely as followers of the Kami and being in a state of war with Jigoku that ebbs and flows as centuries pass you could say it is dishonorable to treat with enemy spies. Perspective, knowledge, authority (status), honor should play a role in how your character would respond to this issue.

Yeah, Taira already did a lore shadowlands earlier with a 43, so I assume he gets the gist of things, and while he is not honorable, (no junshin) he is loyal, and deeply hateful toward the taint and jigoku, so I think his response is 'you don't make deals with monsters who have already lost their souls to jigoku and whose only desire is to see the entire empire fall to their dark master.'

Thanks guys, just was making sure it wouldn't be totally wrong. If it falls into 'gray area' then I can safely wing it in character and have that be part of 'rokugan is hypocritical' when disagreement arises IC.

Is "If you give up now, I promise to kill you quickly" making a deal/negotiating with the shadowlands?

[Shiba Kaizen]

True by yourself, but you got an interesting variety of samurai here with dreams of glory or sufficient righteous fury. Perhaps I should have played the other twin's follower this game

[Asako Hirase]

*Joins behind the Phoenix, to shake her fist at the Phoenix clan too*

That is totally fair. :p

[Soshi Taira]

Yep. Taira is just super pragmatic, and thus thinks he has better odds vs Khulun.