Out of Character Chat I

Re: Out of Character Chat I

Postby Ide Samai on Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:54 pm

*uses Ide Apology Attack*

Oh ie, nuuuuuuuuu heresy here. Hearsay! Yes, we were talking about hearsay! Like bears at courts, yes."

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Re: Out of Character Chat I

Postby Ide Samai on Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:55 pm

Seppun Hideo wrote:
Mindshred wrote:Legally speaking, meishodo is technically maho.


Uh....

Is this up anywhere else on the forum?


I think maho is technically all non-elemental magic, but practically refers to blood magic. The Kuni really only concern themselves with the former, but the Inquisitors deal with it all.... and I think the Jade Champion falls wherever :)
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Re: Out of Character Chat I

Postby Iuchi Dong-Ha on Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:58 pm

Kitsune Takeo wrote:
Iuchi Dong-Ha wrote:
Kitsune Takeo wrote:
I appreciate the sentiment, but perhaps the newly returned clan that has enslaved kami and trapped them in tiny medallions should attempt to distance themselves from bloodspeakers entirely.

Actually our medallions are tad more heretical than that. They use gaijin words of creation to directly influence elements bypassing the kami. >.>


Wait what?

This isn't the meishodo I'm familiar with. Not saying you're wrong, just not what I'm used to.


It's in the 2nd edition books, so might have been retconned. Basically meishodo translates as 'name magic' we each trinket bearing a 'name' or a 'word of power' uttered during moment of The Creation. Unicorn stole this way of doing magic from the City of Sorcerers. Rokugani magic beseeches kami / fortunes to affect the elements, meanwhile the gaijin magics.. skips this part. Getting Unicorn involved with meishodo was actually a Kolat plot in 2e... distancing them further from the kami / spirits.
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Re: Out of Character Chat I

Postby Mindshred on Mon Apr 03, 2017 1:59 pm

Ide Samai wrote:
Seppun Hideo wrote:
Mindshred wrote:Legally speaking, meishodo is technically maho.


Uh....

Is this up anywhere else on the forum?


I think maho is technically all non-elemental magic, but practically refers to blood magic. The Kuni really only concern themselves with the former, but the Inquisitors deal with it all.... and I think the Jade Champion falls wherever :)


Basically this.

Maho is just a catch- all term for "weird magic we don't understand."

I doubt that the Jade Champion will make a big deal about It, given that he's technically using maho as well (I.e. gaijin magic).
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Re: Out of Character Chat I

Postby Moto Khulun on Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:00 pm

The Asako Inquisition to the rescue!

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Re: Out of Character Chat I

Postby Usagi Tomoe on Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:01 pm

Uhm... so how does this work for people like the Hare, at least me who has Lore: Maho, because of the Hare-duty to hunt Bloodspeakers?

"omk Bloodspeakers!" ?
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Re: Out of Character Chat I

Postby Seppun Hideo on Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:01 pm

Mindshred wrote:Basically this.

Maho is just a catch- all term for "weird magic we don't understand."

I doubt that the Jade Champion will make a big deal about It, given that he's technically using maho as well (I.e. gaijin magic).


So does this mean that people with Lore: Maho can recognise this kind of magic?

What about any (gasp) maho-tsukai players that may or may not be here?
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Re: Out of Character Chat I

Postby Doji Fukawa on Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:02 pm

Asako Yuki wrote:Because technically speaking at this point in time the definition of Maho is *super* vague. I believe there's a write-up in one of the supplement books about an Isawa using air kami to delight children and he gets brought up on charges of maho and almost executed.

Until the Crab come in and go "Sort your shit or we will sort it for you."



Yeah, I remember that. Not where it is, but yes. The Isawa had a political enemy, and the technical definition of maho at the time was something like, "Magic used for personal gain" or something like that. Trying to define maho as evil magics, without getting into the whole unseemly topic of blood.


But ya know, between the fur, leather, and meat, what's one more blasphemy? :lol:
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Re: Out of Character Chat I

Postby Moto Khulun on Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:03 pm

Doji Fukawa wrote:But ya know, between the fur, leather, and meat, what's one more blasphemy? :lol:

*Chews on jerky while wearing her furs...*

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Re: Out of Character Chat I

Postby Kitsune Takeo on Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:04 pm

I thought in 4e the writeup was that meishodo captured the kami and had them replicate the same spell every time. I'll have to go look at GC I suppose.
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Re: Out of Character Chat I

Postby Moto Khulun on Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:05 pm

And this is why I don't play casters in this setting, except that one time.
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Re: Out of Character Chat I

Postby Bayushi Suteichi on Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:05 pm

Moto Khulun wrote:
Doji Fukawa wrote:But ya know, between the fur, leather, and meat, what's one more blasphemy? :lol:

*Chews on jerky while wearing her furs...*

Wut, I do what I want.



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Re: Out of Character Chat I

Postby Moto Khulun on Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:06 pm

I think the Scorpion is flirting with me.
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Re: Out of Character Chat I

Postby Shinjo Monkhbaatar on Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:06 pm

Bayushi Suteichi wrote:
Moto Khulun wrote:
Doji Fukawa wrote:But ya know, between the fur, leather, and meat, what's one more blasphemy? :lol:

*Chews on jerky while wearing her furs...*

Wut, I do what I want.



*stares cautiously while sipping tea*


I think he's interested cousin. Go fight him and see if he's worthy! :D
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Re: Out of Character Chat I

Postby Asako Yuki on Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:06 pm

Seppun Hideo wrote:
Mindshred wrote:Basically this.

Maho is just a catch- all term for "weird magic we don't understand."

I doubt that the Jade Champion will make a big deal about It, given that he's technically using maho as well (I.e. gaijin magic).


So does this mean that people with Lore: Maho can recognise this kind of magic?

What about any (gasp) maho-tsukai players that may or may not be here?


I doubt it, as the mechanics state pretty specifically that it deals only in blood magic.

This is just Rokugani legal technicality.
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