Lion Poll: The Iron Chrysanthemum

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What will the Lion do about the Hantei and the returned spirits?

Poll ended at Fri May 12, 2017 9:18 pm

The spirits are unnatural and should be returned to Toshigoku! With the assistance of the Kitsu, the Lion put the spirit armies to the sword. The act of cutting down their ancestors takes a terrible psychological toll upon the Lion, however, and when they turn to the Kitsu daimyo for guidance, she fails them and claims that the Lion Clan is doomed. Seppuku and depression ripple outwards through the Clan to devastating effect.
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The Lion allow the spirits of their ancestors to move freely among the Clan, that they might speak with their ancestors. Even those spirits who are not Lion are allowed to return to their homelands with travel papers issued by the Lion. Unbeknownst to the Lion, however, this is all part of the Steel Chrysanthemum's plan, and the returned spirits begin to agitate their descendants into increased tensions with the throne. The Clans begin to separate into "traditionalist" and "modernist" factions as the debate grows in the courts, dividing the Empire in half just when it needs to be strongest.
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The Lion Champion personally meets with Hantei XVI to discuss the issue of the spirits. The strength and surety of the Hantei catch the young Lion Champion off guard, however, and it casts the weakness of the current Emperor into stark contrast. When the Hantei promises the lands of the Crane to the Lion Champion for her support, she bends her knee and pledges fealty to the former Hantei.
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The Lion delay their decision until the Emperor can arrive to speak with his ancestor. When he does, however, the Steel Chrysanthemum takes his descendant hostage and threatens to murder the Emperor unless he abdicates his throne. The Emperor refuses and is killed as the spirits rampage through Morikage Toshi, throwing the Lion Clan into chaos and leaving the Empress, Hantei Tokiyo, in control of Rokugan.
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The Kitsu daimyo visits the spirit camp to atone for the sin of opening the Toshigoku portal that dragged the spirits back into Ningen-do. While in the camp, she is attacked by the spirits, who brutalize and murder her before seizing control of the Mirror of Sorrow. The spirits present the mirror to Hantei XVI, giving him access to the whole of Toshigoku. The mirror shatters as he uses it to open a colossal tear in dimensions, giving him an army of slaughter spirits bolstered by the ancient Kitsu... who have been warped and twisted into the fearsome Tsuno. The armies of the Iron Chrysanthemum then march on the throne, plunging the Empire into war.
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Re: Lion Poll: The Iron Chrysanthemum

Postby Akodo Runno on Thu May 11, 2017 7:14 pm

Asako Yuki wrote:I disagree there. Lion have suffered losses against the Phoenix, the Crab, and the Dragon, and then suffered even more losses when Kyuden Akodo got nuked. They probably still have the best armies in Rokugan right now (with the possible exception of the Crane, who have little direct experience but haven't suffered really any combat losses), but I'd say they are far from top form.


As close to top form as can be given the general state of the Empire.
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Re: Lion Poll: The Iron Chrysanthemum

Postby Shinjo Akil on Thu May 11, 2017 7:24 pm

Miya Mei wrote:Lots of Lion were killed in the battles of the Naga War.

Imperial Legions are probably the strongest standing army to be honest.


This is literally never true. The entirety of the imperial legions are not large enough to stand up to any given Clan army. And the Lion, even weakened, have 4.
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Re: Lion Poll: The Iron Chrysanthemum

Postby Matsu Nintoku on Thu May 11, 2017 7:33 pm

Thats not even considering that the Imperial Armies are composed mostly of, you guessed it, Lions.
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Re: Lion Poll: The Iron Chrysanthemum

Postby Akodo Runno on Thu May 11, 2017 7:34 pm

All the indicators are there for a weak central government, pity it's usually not played well in Canon. :?
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Re: Lion Poll: The Iron Chrysanthemum

Postby Matsu Nintoku on Thu May 11, 2017 7:37 pm

Akodo Runno wrote:All the indicators are there for a weak central government, pity it's usually not played well in Canon. :?


Indeed, the current Empire should be more akin to the beginning of the Ashikaga Shogunate than anything.
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Re: Lion Poll: The Iron Chrysanthemum

Postby Iuchi Saksaha on Thu May 11, 2017 8:07 pm

Akodo Runno wrote:
Kitsu Takashi wrote:The Crab are stuck on the wall.... with a large number of undead ponies about to hit them.


I'd guess this to be more of a slow-build problem. Kiyoshi gets the bodies of the dead for the next 10 years; he doesn't get to collect up front! :lol: Of course we shall see what happens with this plague Asakiko was warned about... come to think of it, The Wasting Disease black scroll hasn't been busted out yet, has it?
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Re: Lion Poll: The Iron Chrysanthemum

Postby Soshi Yuuru on Thu May 11, 2017 8:08 pm

No it hasn't.

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Re: Lion Poll: The Iron Chrysanthemum

Postby Soshi Bantu on Thu May 11, 2017 8:16 pm

Iuchi Saksaha wrote:
Akodo Runno wrote:
Kitsu Takashi wrote:The Crab are stuck on the wall.... with a large number of undead ponies about to hit them.


I'd guess this to be more of a slow-build problem. Kiyoshi gets the bodies of the dead for the next 10 years; he doesn't get to collect up front! :lol: Of course we shall see what happens with this plague Asakiko was warned about... come to think of it, The Wasting Disease black scroll hasn't been busted out yet, has it?


It was trekking back to Dragon lands in a nice secure crystal box last we heard...

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Re: Lion Poll: The Iron Chrysanthemum

Postby Usagi Tomoe on Thu May 11, 2017 8:17 pm

It's currently a tie!


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Re: Lion Poll: The Iron Chrysanthemum

Postby Doji Ameka on Thu May 11, 2017 8:18 pm

Usagi Tomoe wrote:It's currently a tie!


YES! A tie would create such an interesting scenario! :D
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Re: Lion Poll: The Iron Chrysanthemum

Postby Akodo Runno on Thu May 11, 2017 8:20 pm

They usually do.
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Re: Lion Poll: The Iron Chrysanthemum

Postby Soshi Bantu on Thu May 11, 2017 8:20 pm

How would THAT tie play out?

Two Emperors, and a Lion Champion walk into a bar...
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Re: Lion Poll: The Iron Chrysanthemum

Postby Otaku Imane on Thu May 11, 2017 8:20 pm

It'll probably a coin flip and hence orokos decides :|
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Re: Lion Poll: The Iron Chrysanthemum

Postby Otaku Kitakuhime on Thu May 11, 2017 8:24 pm

Soshi Bantu wrote:How would THAT tie play out?

Two Emperors, and a Lion Champion walk into a bar...

Both happen!

Lion joins the Steel, they both kill the Emperor. They strike any opposition in the Lion loyal to the Empress (ex-Lion) and the deceased Emperor.
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Re: Lion Poll: The Iron Chrysanthemum

Postby Ichiro Daisuke on Thu May 11, 2017 8:25 pm

I'm hoping a tie doesn't mean both.

That would be all kinds of chaos.
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